Succinctly put, Marc!

Marc,
You're absolutely right- without a teleprompter, Obama loses that magic oratory talent he has. He is a great reader!

Nice try, Mitt.

Sorry, but your delusional. As a businessman with a degree in finance and an MBA, I can assure you that quite the opposite is true. Please do more research. Barny Frank and Nancy Pelosi are at the root of the housing bust that caused the economic collapse. Obama has no clue. Bush's failure was being able to stop BF and NP.

Talk about a dictatorship,,the clsoest we evr came was with Bush and our own Ashcroft at the justice dept. Those two almost singleahandedley re-instituted the nuremberg laws (in effect) against anyone THEY disliked!

Dictatorship? Please. The 10th amendment has been enforced twice. And didn't we put that issue to bed 147 years ago anyway? It was symbolic candy to entice the more reluctant states to ratify the Constitution.

Marc and Jim,
Well stated! How long can the current administration continue to blame George Bush for their failings to control the economy?

A agree that Obama was flat and either didn't prep, or is just not the camera ready photoshop that Romney is.

Even you can't really believe what you wrote here! Republicans clearly are made up by many people other than the one percent you refer too. I suspect the majority of Republicans are of the middle class. The next time you post something, you should try being honest and not just repeat someone else's foolish comment. No one will seriously listen to anything you say when you repeat garbage such as this. It does not help your cause or promote your position in any way.

Are you blind? geeezzzz....

Mmmmmmmmm...you must have watched a different debate than I did.

Blue.

I disagree. Romney was hot! He was like a 'Used Car Salesman'. He exaggerated the car's mileage, performance, and cost. But many of us would buy the old clunker from him because of the energy he showed.
Obama, on the other hand, showed us the modern car and let us decide for ourselves. My family is talking it over and now that we are out of the show room, Obama's vision of middleclass features, better mileage and lower cost seem to be the better choice.

If you say so. Obama has been exactly the President he promised he would be back in '08. He has remained dedicated to his core principles, and he wasted no time in addressing the most politically charged issue of the last 70 years - significant reform of the health insurance marketplace - something no President before him has been able to accomplish. To a large degree, his challenges, in particular after the midterms (that "grassroots" Tea Party nonsense that was bought and paid for by the insurance biz) have been the result of a Congress whose top priority has been to stand in the way of every policy initiative put forward by his administration. His claims were pretty accurate, well supported, and he continues to demonstrate a real commitment to the middle class. That is winning in my book. He also took the debate far more seriously than Romney. Personally, I do not understand the hate directed at Obama, considering his agenda and his accomplishments. If you oppose his signature piece of legislation, Affordable Healthcare Act, or "Obamacare", I am pretty sure you haven't actually looked at what the bill does, because it gives most of us a lot more leverage with our health insurers than we'd have without it. It's impact will be huge, and a net positive to most of us. Honestly, I don't get the hate. At all.

a douche? Nice choice of words.

This comment by "The Missourian" is really curious, because for the last four years, Mr. President Obama has been getting by really well as a pretty boy and a good talker. That guy is smooooth. He can dance, and even sing fairly well, as we saw on TV and also on U-Tube. Now, however, "The Missourian" is saying that Mitt Romney is doing the same thing and it really bugs him.

Whatever, dude. Be a low information voter. Obama's record is stellar, given being saddled with a House whose explicit, stated goal was to make him fail. The Affordable Care Act kicks ass and takes names, and even with its flaws is still one of the best pieces of legislation of the past fifty years. Deal with it.

"Obama has been exactly the President he promised he would be..."
"significant reform of the health insurance marketplace - something no President before him has been able to accomplish" - See, every President before this buffoon knew it wasn't the Federal Government's job, and that government involvement couldn't "solve" it - and as always, left out was the fact that it's a larger tax-increase, by FAR, by any other President, and goes against his "no tax increase on families making less than $250,000/year." Here are more of those "promises"...

Cut the Deficit in Half by the end of his first term
$1.4 trillion in fiscal year 2009
$1.2 trillion this fiscal year

Fix the Economy in 3 years
Unemployment rate has remained above 8 percent for more than three years
Obama said it was “unpatriotic” to add $4 trillion to the national debt – he has amassed $5 trillion in additional debt and is responsible for the most rapid increase in debt by any President ever

Fix Unemployment
Took it from 5.5% to above 8% for the last 3 years - he got some good news today, but that 7.8% does not account for those whose benefits have run-out, or those people who got part-time or other full-time jobs after losing careers

Close Guantanamo Bay
2009 attempt to suspend military commissions in Cuba and transfer some prisoners to an Indiana

Televise Health Care Debate
Final health care talks, including the meetings between House & Senate conferees, were held behind closed doors

Increase Transparency
Give 5 days for the people to give their input on “any bill that crosses his desk”
Lobbyists later told reporters they met with administration officials outside the White House in a possible effort to keep them off visitors’ logs. News agencies and others have complained about the difficulty in getting information through Freedom of Information Act filings. Most recently, the president used executive privilege to keep congressional investigators from getting more Justice Department documents on the agency’s failed Operation Fast and Furious gun-tracking effort.

Work Across the Aisle – Bipartisanship
Forced through Obamacare without a single vote from the other side of the aisle (check)

Promised to Bring Down Healthcare Premiums
Promised savings of $2500 dollars per typical family – Premiums rose 9% last year

Affordable College
College Tuition and Average Student Loan Debt – Both at all time highs

”No family making less than $250,000 a year will see any form of tax increase. Not your income tax, not your payroll tax, not your capital gains taxes, not any of your taxes.”
Raised taxes on tanning, cigarettes, and those who do not purchase health insurance (regardless of income) and mandates the regulations that cause the likes of Prop P in St Peters

PAYGO
Obama signed PAYGO legislation which demanded that all expenditures be paid for unless they are part of an emergency. Democrats in Congress started using loopholes to bypass the legislation almost immediately. (Loophole: is a Dem buzz-word right now – the President used it repeatedly in the debate – it’s also what allows the rich (& politicians) to pay a lower tax rate than you & I, and the reason they squalk at a flat-tax suggestion, because these “loopholes” would be eliminated)

Spending Freezes
In 2008, Obama derided spending freezes as ”using a hatchet where you need a scalpel” and ”unfair burden-sharing”. He said that, although it’s ”proposed periodically”, a spending freeze ”doesn’t happen”. Then in 2010, Obama announced support for a three-year federal spending freeze on discretionary spending not related to national security. Not only did he flip-flop, but hasn’t frozen spending

Earmarks
In 2008, Obama’s campaign said that, as President, he would reduce earmarks ”to less than $7.8 billion a year, the level they were at before 1994″. Earmarks for fiscal year 2010 were more than $15 billion.
Note: Claire’s husband’s company received $1 million in Bailout earmarks – yet she says she’s against them

Competitive Bidding on Earmarks
In 2008, Obama said that, as President, he would ”ensure that federal contracts over $25,000 are competitively bid”. He has not done so.

Tax Credits for Child Care
In 2008, Obama said that, as president, he would increase the tax credits for child care and dependent care, and make such credits refundable. He has not done so.

Killing NASA Program
In August 2008, Obama announced “a detailed comprehensive space plan that includes $2 billion in new funding to reinvigorate NASA”.
In March 2010, President Obama made a decision “to kill NASA’s Constellation program, crafted during the Bush administration with an ambitious goal of putting astronauts back on the moon by 2020.”

Want me to get into Foreign Policy?

PS - You can't play the victim-blame card, blaming the House for being "uncooperative" (or like Claire, keep repeating the buzzword, "gridlock"), while the Senate floor (where she works) has 250+ bills that have passed through the House just sitting dormant upon it. Some of those bills are budgets. The Senate has outright refused to pass a Budget in how long? It's simply an admission that they have no intention of being fiscally responsible with your money or working across the aisle like they claim.

Done huffing and puffing? As I said before, he has been exactly the President I voted for. I cared about three things: The Healthcare law, stimulus, and green energy. All things this administration focused on, fortunately early. Let's be real. We ALL KNOW the healthcare act was an extremely difficult piece of legislation to pass - due to a combination of particularly intense lobbying, and pressure from more conservative states - and it took the majority of the first year. Every states rights group and major insurer fought it tooth and nail - especially after the Citizens United decision, and you couldn't turn on the TV without hearing ad after ad about how "Obamacare" was going to be some sort of Armageddon. As soon as it passed, every conservative group, now unencumbered from having to disclose its donor list, went on the attack - both for healthcare and the stimulus, and the opportunity for incumbent Democrats to champion further legislation was effectively killed by the need to campaign in a completely new, no-accountability campaign season. And then we get to the Congress class of 2010. To say that having a House that is openly hostile to the President, and as a rule unwilling to cooperate with him is not a significant factor in Obama's Presidency is sheer willful ignorance. I think he did a remarkable job standing his, my, ground. And he has my vote.

And those 250 bills from the House to the Senate? aka Defense of Marriage Act? HR 2 healthcare repeal? etc.

Thank you Devon Seddon for the precise recount of President Obama's record. However, I must agree with the Missourian, President Obama has achieved everything I expected and even more. You see I expected he would be a dismal failure, but to his credit he was even worse than I ever imagined he could be. No I did not think he'd be able to sell the garbage in Obamacare but he did it. Clearly people such as the Missourian will never get it, but thank you Devon Seddon you spelled it out correctly.

Bill, I'm so glad that you mentioned the Constitution, because I feel that in our country we are getting so far away from what the founding fathers intended when they set up our democracy.

I wonder if you are the same Jim I just replied to on stltoday.com?

I'll repeat my response here for the benefit of a different audience:
A government is NOT a corporation and should not be run like one. The role of government is to provide common defense, preserve the rule of law and promote the social welfare. The role of a corporation is to turn a profit. These two goals are incompatible. That does not mean that corporations are evil. We need capitalism to run our economy, but we also need government to keep the greed of capitalism in check (see robber barons of the 19th century). That being said, being successful in the business world is not necessarily a qualification for heading up the executive branch of our country.

Romney took a took a Democratically controlled state, Massachusetts, turned it's deficit around and instituted a statewide healthcare plan, while not taking a salary as Governor. Now that's my kind of politician.

The point is, we've made HUGE strides in social and personal freedoms,, there were times when people were criminals for religiuos beliefs(and still are in other countries) (ask Romney and the Mormons) and for sexual preferences, and other, what, at the time were considered "immoral, and un-normal behavior" what's normal? what's norma to one may not be to another,, and to say be glad we;ve made these strides, to where it is truly a personal matter now. It is something to be "proud of" but I don't bleieve in a "Straight Pride Parade" so why would I beleive in a "gay pride parade? Like I said be "proud" but it is a "personal"matter, so leave it there!!!!!

Meaning, "leave it as a personal one, ( you won!) be proud, be gladd, but no need to pronounce it in the streets,, all I've seen that do is to galvanize some people who otherwise "could care less"waht someone's persoanl prefernce is> (I'm one of those, I say live and let live, I don't need anyones "lifestyle" or "Life" paraded in front of me, "It's personal"

Ok Bill I see where you're coming from. I misinterpreted your comments as lamenting the days when things like that were criminalized.

People mistrust Romney because he has no actual stance and because his policy record as MA Gov appears to have little relationship to the statements he makes on the campaign trail. Just who is he? It isn't clear.

Look at KMOV Larry Conners sits on my right,,,

I retired after 34 years in. It is all that it is cracked up to be. Get to goof off a much as I want and no punks telling me what to do.

Rich - Winning the debate does not directly equate to winning any votes. As someone here already pointed out. It seems that winning is being judged on style over substance. Annie is just saying that she's looking past the style and judging on substance, and what Obama actually said resonates more with her than what Romney said.

Rolling Stone ? That's where I go for information about Entertainers.

Did you know that Romney inherited money from his wealthy father, George Romney? Yes, he inherited weath, but did you know that instead of keeping it, he donated all of that money to charity and then went on to earn his own living in his own right. I admire Romney tremendously for this. Today in our country I see a real climate of hatred towards anyone who has accumulated wealth or achieved success. Throughout American history, it is individuals like these who created corporations, made new products, invented new things and most importantly, EMPLOYED other Americans in the process. Think about it. Jobs do not come out of thin air. Someone has to create jobs.

Let me tell you something else. When you are as well connected as the Romneys were/are, giving away your inheritance isn't quite the same thing as it is for the rest of us. Why? Because you have dad's Rolodex, and it is full of contacts that have already been vetted, cultivated, and monetized. If you are from the right social strata, rebuilding that nest egg is almost a given. That's a long way of saying it's an irrelevant datapoint.

It's just funny that it's more of a "datapoint" than it is when someone is backed by George Soros, David Geffen, Warren Buffet, AIG, Goldmann-Sachs, Hollywood, National Media, and a rolodex that does NOT pale-by-comparison like you like to pretend it does.

We're not talking about now, we're talking about at the age Romney inherited the money he gave away. For young Romney, his success was assurred by the powerful web of business and political connections amassed by his father, George Romney. For the young Obama, there was no source of familial wealth and no political influence. If we were talking about both of them today, that is a completely different matter. Today they both have excellent connections.

Romoney did a good achvievement in straighting out the 2002 Olympics. But this hardly qualifies him to be elected President. Republican Romney is simply an extention of Republican George W Bush. We don't need another Republican with the same ideology trashing us all over again.

I have been wondering lately why Mitten's was banging the war drum about Russia, and now I am seeing why. Going to a cold-war style defense system seems like the worst thing for our nation now- economically, and security-wise.

However, it has to be done -to tap into all this communist! socialist!Marxist! narrative. It's like the Island of San Lorenzo - got to give people an evil foe to hate. One would think that our nation has enough true challenges and foes, without a new round of McCarthyism.

Obama is a bland centrist

Jim, you are either lazy, intellectually lazy, or are attempting to distort the truth. 30 seconds of Google work would have debunked your stupid theory that factcheck.org is somehow in bed with Communists and Obama.

Your statement "That organization is from the Annenberg Foundation" is downright laughable. You do know that Walter Annenberg was a prominent Conservative REPUBLICAN politician don't you? Here is the truth, which seriously I found in like 9 seconds:

"(FactCheck.org, which is nonpartisan, also receives funding from the Annenberg Foundation. But we are in no way connected to the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, which finished its work long before we came into being in late 2003.)"

Obama and Ayers had a very indirect connection to the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, which predated factcheck.org by a long time and are in no way related.

Now, where's your retraction?

Earl -all tea party patriots know that anybody that calls the republican on all their misinformation and lies has to be a commie pig. Never mind that they also call the democrats on it too.

You know what would be funny? A compendium of tea partier vocabulary. Words you only see tea partiers use: like charlatans, "soaring speeches," etc. What are other cliches of their "grassroots" movement?

"liberal elite", "traditional marriage", "Christian nation", "socialist government programs", one could go on and on.

"marxist" "lamestream media" "government takeover of healthcare" "death panels"
"the Founding Fathers!" "Big guvmint!"

That ^ is a desecration of Thomas Paine's name.

So... what is Romney's experience (outside of Wall Street)? Running one Winter Olympics and being a mildly successful but increasingly unpopular governor. Unemployed since 2007; am I missing something?

Yes Earl, Your missing a whole lot. Bain Capital

Jim, did you even read what I wrote? Or do you not know what "Wall Street" means in American English?

Wall Street is the financial district of New York City. It usually refers to the major banks and stock markets. Bain Capital is in Boston and his involvement there was turning around businesses that were trouble. They were an asset management company with a "sterling" business record. He founded the company and today it manages $65 billion. I count that much better than "community organizer".

Earl:
Romney Did not "Run" the olympics--HE SAVED IT. It was in a "depression"
It was Bankrupt. He Saved America's image.

Romney's company "Bain Capital" today is one of the largest Corporate Problem solvers in the "WORLD". You know that.

If that is Wall street to you , may I suggest you cancel every 401k or pension plan you are currently participating in.
Because anything you make for retirement would label you "A HYPOCRITE".

"Romney's company 'Bain Capital' today is one of the largest Corporate Problem solvers in the 'WORLD'. You know that."

I don't know that. How do you know that?

They call themselves "leading", you must be confusing that with "largest".

And if they wanted to call themselves a "Corporate Problem solver", they would. They're a private investment firm.

Wrong again, Mr. Revere.

So the people who benefit from there being no cap on admin expenses are worried that by capping admin expenses...riiiiiiiiiight.

What was that last bit about my nuts? Were you talking to me?

Missourian:
I have a deal for you. ---yr 2012, Ins co. charges you $1,000 for Insurance Premiums.
Ins co. pays zero in medical , so It returns 80% ($800) back to you. It keeps $200.
Year 2013 It charges you $2,000 for insurance Premiums.
It pays Zero in medical , so It returns 80% back to you . It keeps $400.
YOU KEEP PAYING MORE AND MORE, even tho The insurance company overall has not paid out more than 80% for medical.
What a Racket. Obamacare will eventually make all insurance companies have guaranteed 20% returns as they could care less about watching Doctors and Hospitals charges. Their incentive to cut Medical below 80% IS GONE.
You will be charged more each year while they get to keep at least 20% of that. SUCKER!!!!!

Paul Revere, you need to stop trying to do math.

Here is how it works:

Year 1 I pay my insurer $5k in premiums. Lets say I am their only policy holder to keep things simple. They spend $3k on direct healthcare expenses. By law, the $3k they spent on healthcare expenses must be at least 80% of my premium (or 85% if I were in a group). That means the total premium I am on the hook for is $3750 - meaning they are legally required to refund me $1250.

Year 2, they anticipate increased expenses, so they charge me $5500 in premiums. However, healthcare expenses are still only $3000. Because that $3000 can still only represent 80% of the allowable premium, the maximum allowable premium would still be $3750, and my refund in year 2 would be $1750.

That is how the math works. The only difference is in real life, it is based on the overall expenditures of the insurer across all policies. The insurer is always required to spend at least 80% of all policyholders' premiums on medical expenses, or to refund the difference to policyholders.

Wow. Just wow. Paranoid much?

Wow. If I would rob a bank I could make a nice multiplier on my net worth too. But the damn bank would be upset and call the police. I could explain to the police that it's OK because the damn bank had more money than me. samo-samo.
Really, I don't care if the bank has more money. Think I will stick to the straight and narrow.

Its just another etch-sketch moment for Mitt "George W" Romney, resetting his actions to fit the situation.

Big Bird and Sesame Street are a huge cash cow for PBS and would be just as successful without government subsidy. Even if the gov. $$ was yanked today, Sesame Street would be privatized and continue to crank out shows and highly profitable merchandise. Tickle Me Elmo, anyone?

So what I hear you saying is that the fact that he give millions of dollars to charity is is offensive to you, because he doesn't give his money to the groups you want him to. Well, how about you give your money to whom you see fit, and he gives his money to whom he sees fit. The result is a win win for all the charities that receive money. Just out of curiosity, which level did you pledge to PBS?

I'm confused; how does this answer the question "Who won the presidential debate?"?

Or has the Patch comments section now become a hosting ground for every fringe political commentator out there?

Or has the Patch comments section now become a hosting ground for every fringe political commentator out there?

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I Guess that depends on how many answers you need.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Correlation_does_not_imply_causation

1. The president sets gas prices? Really?
2. With more people unemployed, of course more are on food stamps, duhh.
3. Yes, a tragedy.
4. Real according to you. Uhh huh.
5. That is why the president must be able to read minds.
6. Um, now you care what they think? Really?
7. OK ?????
8. Sounds like a regional dispute, maybe the US should stick their nose in, right?
9. The president doesn't set interest rates. Duhh.
10. Congress spends the money, Duhhhh
11. Falsely, got any evidence, no didn't think so.

The economy as bad as it is, is getting better slowly, The same cannot be said of 3.5 years ago.

I'll take the Obama rotten apple over the Romney apple up my #$#@$$

Sonny, Obama looked lost in space. Jimmy Carter no longer has to fear he was the worse President of the United States. You cannot spend your way out of debt, unless you file for bankrupt. If spending is not cut the U.S. will default. If Obama is re-elected better start learning Chineese.

Marc Perez - As far as learning Chineese, I think Obama went to China once. But I think my best bet for learning would come from Romney. He knows Chineese from all his out-sourcing ventures, foreign investments and tax shelters.

Referring to Marc: More Americans need to realize "Free Trade" is a misnomer. It would make more sense to call it "Vulture Trade", for "Free Trade" has been a race to the bottom for our country. No other country in the world has given away whole industries, given away their best production technology to Communist countries the way we have. Further, these communists countries whole their labor forces in bondage creating among the lowest wages for workers in the world. We spent 15 triilions dollars fighting the cold war and now the Communist countries are getting richer at the expense of us Americans getting poorer.

I noticed you connected the term socialist to Communism. Socialism is not Communism. All free democratic goverments in the world have a degree of socialism. Whats killing our country now is a excessive power of control by the capitalist system of our country. (Think Wall Street and huge internatioal conglomerates.)

These are some of the questions that our President should have asked during the debate. The one about investing in foreign countries was asked and Romney said he was not doing that to avoid paying higher taxes. However, it has been pointed out that he does pay a smaller tax rate this way.

He is also now talking about "trickle-down" government theory to defend his economy fix. We accepted the Bush tax cuts in the trickle-down economy theory. You got to give him credit for his cunning vocabulary. He appears to be a cross between Gordon Gecko and a used car salesman [sorry used car salesmen].

Mittens had $3.5 million in foreign investment income for 2011... it is surprising he isn't calling out the 47% / takers in the Caymans.

Joesph, you don't listen very well. Romney did not say he would not have tax cut, he said he would "not increase the deficit with his tax cut". There will be a tax cuts and there will be INCREASED REVENUE because of it. It's because people like you and Obama don't understand economics that we are in this never ending recession. More people working as a result of the tax cuts=more revenue. It worked when Kennedy did it, It worked when Reagan did it. Under Reagan, marginal tax rates were cut from a top of 70% to 28%. Revenues (from all taxes) to the U.S. Treasury nearly doubled. According to the Budget of the U.S. Government, FY 1997, Office of Management and Budget. Revenues increased from roughly $500 billion in 1980 to $1.1 trillion in 1990. . What didn't work was Barney Frank and Pelosi messing with the mortgage markets which lead to it's collapse. Enter Obama with upside down economics that didn't work.

My guess is this must be satire, otherwise you have a very fuzzy mind :-)

BTW David Brooks is a flaming liberal Democrat who counts only as a conservative on the NY Times because the rest of NY Times are all on his left. Don't use the NY Times as a reference.

Groan! next time you get an inheritance donate to charity. Think about that. You are obviously a racist since you think black people can't take care of their children. Yes, abortion is the agent of genocide for the black race.

He is wealthy because he is a very smart man who has made his millions working in the business world. He is also confident, honest, kind and clever. He was my second choice for president. Obama doesn't even make my top 1000. Go Romney.

Jim, why did you bring the race card? I see no reason for that. You brought it up, not Karen. Being a bully in these forms does not do you any favors.

Also, I'm curious what evidence you have that Mitt Romney is "a very smart man" (again, your words, no one else's). Honest question. Evidence only please not opinion.

well, how would you describe a top of his class Harvard graduate who formed his own company and thus became a self made millionaire. I wish I could be that smart. What other criteria would you require? If I had to pick a person to run a company he would be on top. Also if I had to pick a president--Romney

Race--a black baby is 4 time more likely to be aborted than a white baby. It's an outrage. I hate abortionists and racists.

"I hate abortionists and racists."

Sure you do, Jim. You're all about racial equality and social justice, right?

Racial Equality for sure. "Social Justice" has too much baggage for me to jump on with both feet but Equal Justice for sure.

Mittens the self-made millionaire. Very creative Jim. Obama can make that claim too, by the way.

Obummer won't release his standing in class. Wonder why?

BTW millions-- Obama 6, Romney 250

Lol. Thanks for that stat Jim.

You might enjoy this conservative columnist, David Brooks satire.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/28/opinion/brooks-the-real-romney.html?_r=2&;

"Mitt grew up in a modest family. His father had an auto body shop called the American Motors Corporation, and his mother owned a small piece of land, Brazil. He had several boyhood friends, many of whom owned Nascar franchises, and excelled at school, where his fourth-grade project, “Inspiring Actuaries I Have Known,” was widely admired. "

Using that financial worth measuring stick, I suppose the corporate raider, Carl Icahn, (worth $14.8Billion) is your dream candidate.

Hmmm, I didn't even know he was running. I guess you can say he is very smart too.
I don't know much about his political ideals but I'd put him above Obama whom I do know a lot about. LOL

"Social justice either equals justice or it equals injustice". (its been said)

I believe in justice. Some believe in fuzzy social justice.

Funny, the problems really started with the Democratic win in 2006. Before that we we had a great gross domestic product growth. Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, and Barney Frank using the current failed economic ideals sent us into collapse. Go Romney! He'll not follow the borrow, spend and borrow again Obama failed plan.

You could teach a Revisionist History Course.

You couldn't teach a history course. :-)

hmmmm, So go on...

The sad part is you believe that nonsense. Lay off MSNBC, they are warping your mind.

Jim, what does AbE say that isn't factually correct? Seriously.

Wow, literally nothing you just stated is true. I imagine you walking around in an American Flag shirt. Please tell me you don't have a mullet and live in St. Charles...

I stopped at, "BO's foriegn (sic) policy has heated up the world that we can only hope MR can scale it back". I thought MR said "Hope is not a strategy". So which is it? You guys flip-flop more than a fish in the Arizona desert!

No sir, "hope" doesn't get my vote. Stick with the proven leader. Don't switch horses in mid stream!

Another choice quote, "Gays don't have families." Wow, just wow. Don't get out much do we?

caffy: You too?
Your wrong and I'm right. :-)

You tea partiers are easy. Sarah Palin, now Mittens Romney. Lol.

@Earl Higgins "No sir, "hope" doesn't get my vote."

You don't think that's just a little ironic coming from a person whose undying, nay unquestionable support is for a man whose entire campaign and subsequent Presidency is based on "hope"?

"Your wrong and I'm right. "

That would be "You're wrong and I'm right" and no... you're clearly not.

It is hard to take seriously ye ole men who believe in a no govt/no tax utopia and in the policies of Bush/Cheney, even without the townhall.com regurgitations, tricornered hats, breeches, and american flag shirts.

Well said.

Very well said. I would be willing to pay a higher Federal tax rate 1) if everyone in my income bracket would do the same rate, 2) all the tax shelters were permanently closed down and subsidies were only given to make the world market fair.