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Newtown Vigil: Is the Missouri Synod Wrong on Its Stance?

The president of the Kirkwood-based Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod asked for an apology from a pastor who participated in an interfaith vigil after the shootings.

A few days after the shooting in Newtown, CT, that killed 20 children and six adults, the community gathered with a variety of clergy leaders representing a number of faiths for a prayer service and vigil.

That didn't sit well with the president of the conservative, Kirkwood-based Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod.

A pastor from Christ the King Lutheran Church, a Missouri Synod church in Newtown, was among those who participated. And the president of the synod, The Rev. Matthew Harrison, asked that pastor to apologize, as reported in an article by the St. Louis Post-Dispatch on Saturday.

The Post's coverage summarizes the issue thusly: The synod forbids "worship services that blend the beliefs and practices of Lutherans with those of other faiths." That's how Harrison saw the prayer vigil in Newtown.

In Harrison's statement on the synod's website, he said the prayers and readings, and the vestments of other clergy "led me to conclude that this was in fact joint worship" and that it "was a step beyond the bounds of practice allowed by the Scriptures, our Lutheran Confessions, and the constitution of our Synod."

In his apology, posted on the synod's website, Pastor Robert Morris declared that he had shared the stage at the vigil with "false teachers," and therefore, "I have diminished the proclamation of the truth."

Still, he said, "I believed my participation to be, not an act of joint worship, but an act of community chaplaincy."

In a later statement on Thursday, the synod said, "We are proud of the work Pastor Morris has done in Newtown and how he has served the community in so many ways. We are handling the situation within our church to work toward greater unity and consensus." (See the full statement as a PDF attached to this article.)

What do you think of the Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod's decision to reprimand Pastor Morris? Was Morris participating in worship with other religious leaders, or just helping his community heal? What do you think about this story?

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flyoverland February 11, 2013 at 03:28 pm
I just wanted to also mention Pastor Harrison's refusal to bend to what has become the "cafeteria Christian" syndrome. He doesn't just select the parts he likes. You may not agree. If you are a member of any other protestant religion, you are a Protestant because of Martin Luther who had the courage to follow the Bible instead of the Pope. He did this at the risk to his life and at the time, it was believed to his soul. All denominations exist because someone disagreed. One might believe in pre-destination. One might believe something else. Interpretations have spawned numerous off-shoots. But, they are all off-shoots of the Catholic church, which today admits it had run astray with indulgences, etc., and the Lutheran Church which was formed not to start a new church, but to "reform" the Catholic church. Martin Luther probably would have been very satisfied if the Catholic church had just reformed itself and he could have gone back to minding his own business. But, he was so principled he could not go along to get along. Pastor Harrison, is the same way. He risked his job to stand for his principles. It is hard to understand that. If you do not believe it. Go to YouTube and look up his lecture to Congress on the First Amendment. I was never so proud to be a Lutheran as I was that day.
Nancy P February 11, 2013 at 03:56 pm
I am a member of a LCMS church and have to admit I will need to talk to my Pastor to get a better explaination of this.Thank you Maggi for being invested in this conversation and remaining calm throughout - you are a great representation of LCMS. For the athiests, I pray for you and hope you welcome Christ into your life soon. This reminded me of Stan Musial's funeral that was on all the local stations. The Priests only allowed practicing Catholics to have communion, I'm assuming this is along the same lines? Wondering why this wasn't discussed more?
Kim February 11, 2013 at 05:23 pm
Maggi - who is the ELCA "president" you are referring to? The ELCA has a Presiding Bishop (Mark Hanson) who is married to a woman, and a Vice President (Carlos Pena) who is also married to a woman. I am not aware of a position titled "president" of the ELCA.
Jarod B. February 11, 2013 at 05:34 pm
"Not from Here" made a comment that he or she believes that some Christian religions believe that thier God finds favor with them above other humans. This, to me is a troubling commentary about how Christian churhes in our time may be miscommunicating the message of God's love. God does love all people. If you believe the Bible the Scriptures teach that He loved us so much that he provides a way of salvation through faith in Jesus Christ. This free gift of salvation is open to ANYONE who will believe in Chirst and be baptized in His name. And yes NFH, the Scriptures also say that there is only one true God. This might seem intellectually absurd to many but a believer's relationship with God through Christ is neither intellectual nor scientific. By grace, through faith in Christ we are made whole. His work, not ours, is the only true "good". As a Lutheran I understand that the bible calls us to compassion, to good deeds, to stand with others in time of crisis. The work of communicating the love of Christ to all who would hear will always remain with us. NFH, if you want to really know what the God of the Bible is like I invite you to grab a Bible and start reading the gospels with an open mind. Maybe you will like it, maybe not, but at least you will have read it for yourself.
Thomas Andrews February 12, 2013 at 02:19 am
I'm not sure, but I think I got chewed out by a troll for pointing out how we're persecuted when we unite in our beliefs, sometimes being treated almost like criminals for expressing our faith, referred to on tv as the "Christian Taliban", as though God fearing people are a blight that needs to be exterminated.
I'm simply pointing out how nowadays, in this "One Nation Under God", religious unity and expression is treated like a crime. So sorry that my sarcasm was misunderstood.
William Braudis February 12, 2013 at 02:35 am
Of all the Religions of the World, please tell me which one has God declared His True Religion ? I would almost have to say, from reading the Bible, that it would be the Jewish Religion. Sorry obama but the muslim sect is at the bottom of the list.
Debbie Rowe February 12, 2013 at 02:51 am
Is the issue praying with other "Christian" faiths or praying along with Muslims and Jewish. I would understand the problem if it were a non-christian religion. But if the President of LCMS is having a problem praying with say a Catholic or a Protestant Church, then that makes no sense and I go back to whose law are we following - Mans law, or Gods law.
John J. February 12, 2013 at 05:00 am
Just a few Sundays ago, Jesus preached a little sermon in His hometown, where He was not accepted. He pointed out that: "Indeed, I tell you,
there were many widows in Israel in the days of Elijah when the sky was closed for three and a half years and a severe famine spread over the entire land. It was to none of these that Elijah was sent, but only to a widow in Zarephath in the land of Sidon. Again, there were many lepers in Israel during the time of Elisha the prophet; yet not one of them was cleansed, but only Naaman the Syrian.” What "religion" you were didn't seem like a big deal to Him....or God.
Rich Pope February 12, 2013 at 05:21 am
People drop out of organized religion because they come to realize it's man-made. The worship of God is supposed to be so simple that even a child can do so without it being a burden. Keep in mind the story of Eden. Mankind didn't like what God had planned so mankind did its own thing. Look where it has gotten us.
Rich Pope February 12, 2013 at 05:22 am
Susan, the very definition of the gospel is the death, burial and resurrection of Christ. What has President Harrison done to cause you to think he's lost sight of the gospel?
Rich Pope February 12, 2013 at 05:26 am
Carl, so if Jesus were to return to earth tomorrow, which denomination would he be? Lutheran, Baptist, Methodist, etc...? I think he would visit a synagogue since he lived and died a Jew. It was Paul of Tarsus that fashioned Christianity in its early stages. That's why it's called Pauline Christianity.
Rich Pope February 12, 2013 at 05:47 am
Debbie, scripture is very clear that we are to only pray to God in the name of Jesus. Yet Roman Catholics pray to Mary and the Saints. Why would anyone want to align themselves with a faith that disregards what scripture teaches?
Rich Pope February 12, 2013 at 05:55 am
Jesus specifically said he came for the lost sheep of Israel. He referred to gentiles as dogs and swine. It was Paul who expanded on the idea that everyone, through faith alone could have a relationship with the God of Israel. And it true that Jesus kept company with tax collectors and prostitutes. He showed compassion to lepers and outcasts. He gave them hope, faith and a change of heart. However keep in mind Paul never met Jesus except through a "vision" on the road to Damascus. Paul is all about Paul. He never mentions Jesus' birth or miracles or the many other things that defined Jesus' ministry. Also, Paul and Jesus' brother James hated each other's guts. Martin Luther was aware of this and didn't want the book of James included in his translation of the Bible because it raised too many questions. But pressure from believers forced him to do so.
Rich Pope February 12, 2013 at 05:59 am
JH, some Christian religions do not believe in the doctrine of the trinity. Is it okay to practice with them if you do believe in the trinity? Some Christians believe that faith plus works brings salvation while others believe faith alone brings salvation. Is it okay to practice your faith with them? Some Christian religions believe that Jesus is God in the flesh while others don't believe that concept. Would you fellowship with them?
Rich Pope February 12, 2013 at 06:00 am
No, they don't. WELS stands for Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Synod and ELCA stands for Evangelical Luthern Church of America. WELS is as close to Roman Catholicism as you can get without crossing the line. It's watered-down Roman Catholicism.
Rich Pope February 12, 2013 at 06:07 am
Jesus did not invent Christianity. Jesus was a practicing Jew who was circumcised on the 8th day, kept Passover, kept the Sabbath, kept the Jewish holy days, kept kosher, etc...He attended synagogue and read from the Torah and Haftorah. He died a Jew. It was Paul of Tarsus that started Christianity. The two religions are night and day. Here's an interesting test. Get a copy of Artscrolls Stone Edition of the T'nach (old testament). Then get a copy of your favorite Christian translation and compare the key passages. You will be amazed at how the Christian translations have purposely mistranslated, misquoted, and outright invented things that don't appear in the early Hebrew manuscripts. It will send shivers up your spine to find out you have been duped because you didn't have enough education on the subject. That you blindly followed what your pastors told you each Sunday.
Rich Pope February 12, 2013 at 06:09 am
No. Jesus taught us to love one another as we loved ourselves. Get you scriptures right or else the adversary will have a field day confusing you.
Rich Pope February 12, 2013 at 06:10 am
Charles, Jesus didn't need to call anyone by name because he said all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. That's everyone. Period.
Rich Pope February 12, 2013 at 06:14 am
Jarod, scripture is very clear. God hates the sin, and hates the sinner. If you believe otherwise, you have been lied to. God would love for everyone to turn from sin and live a righteous life. However, this is simply not the case . There is even a passage where God says I loved Jacob but hated Esau. So your theory that God loves all people is simply wrong.
Rich Pope February 12, 2013 at 06:15 am
Judaism
Rich Pope February 12, 2013 at 06:16 am
John, you are completely illiterate and need to purchase Hooked on Phonics.
Kurt Greenbaum (Editor) February 12, 2013 at 12:42 pm
C'mon, Rich. This discussion has been so good up to this point. Let's keep it that way by avoiding pointless name-calling and personal attacks. Can we talk about ideas and not each other? OK?
Jeanbean February 12, 2013 at 02:59 pm
Kurt, thanks for the comment about bringing the discussion back to a civil exchange of thoughts and ideas instead of name-calling and put-downs. When the discourse descends to those levels, minds snap shut in defense of one's own position and any chance to truly listen to others is nil. Let's play nice. :)
Mike K February 12, 2013 at 03:02 pm
@NancyP: "The Priests only allowed practicing Catholics to have communion"
Yes, this is similar. To the Catholics, receiving communion is an attestation to membership and allegiance to the Catholic Church. Hence, if you are not a Catholic, you should not receive communion in a Catholic service. The Greek Orthodox church has a similar stance. There are probably other faiths that have the same "membership" rules about participating in their services or certain ceremonies within them.
Jeanbean February 12, 2013 at 03:51 pm
Wow! I just got around to looking at today's Post-Dispatch, where a front page article features Rev. Harrison's apology for his handling of Sandy Hook vigil. The quotes from Rev. Harrison are very pastoral and the politics within the Lutheran church reveal the differences among the groups. In my opinion, these differences exist in all major religions. I am happy for Pastor Morris who was ministering to his suffering community in a way he thought might help. And I applaud and admire Rev. Harrison for his humility and courage to state that "I handled it poorly...[and] increased the pain of a hurting community." Amen.
Becky Sternadel February 12, 2013 at 04:18 pm
I have been a member of a Lutheran Church Missouri Synod for almost 50 years. I am ashamed to be a member when this type of stuff happens. This is ridiculous. We all worship the same God. One religion is not better than another religion. This is why the world is in the shape it is in. It doesn't matter which religion you belong to. I am sure that every member would think this is an outrage, just like me.
Debbie Rowe February 13, 2013 at 01:45 am
Rich,
You are right. I didn't think about praying to Mary and the saints. I guess my thoughts were as long as you were a christian it was ok to co mingle with other christians. Thanks for bringing that up. Good point. Still am not sure how i feel about making the minister apologize though.
Debbie Rowe February 13, 2013 at 01:54 am
I 'm missing John J's point
Suzanne Dorling February 15, 2013 at 07:33 pm
Politics pure and simple. With an LCMS election coming up, Harrison had to throw some red meat to the ultra-conservative base that helped him win election and thus, the very public apology he demanded of Rev. Morris. In order to placate the more moderates in the LCMS (there are a few left, but they are leaving in droves) he had to apologize himself for causing a stir in the media (he's not stupid and had to know that would happen). With the apology, he gets the conservative vote for standing up against unionism and he hopes to get the moderate vote for coming across as a humble guy who, aw shucks, didn't mean to cause any harm. Time will tell if his plan worked or not.
Amy E. February 17, 2013 at 08:36 pm
I also watched it on television, and I agree that I saw nothing in that memorial gathering that indicated that any of the clergy present were endorsing the faiths of any of the others. They were all simply trying to offer comfort to the grieving.
I felt the same way some 11 years earlier when the LCMS pastor David Benke participated in an interfaith memorial gathering at Yankee Stadium following the 9/11 terrorist attacks. I am a member of an LCMS church and was at work in Manhattan that morning. Being a Lutheran in this predominantly non-protestant New York metropolitan area sometimes gets pretty lonely, and it was very comforting to see a representative of my denomination at that memorial, instead of avoiding it on some (self-)righteous principle.
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